Who are the SeekersGuidance Helpers?

Have you been enjoying the new content produced by SeekersGuidance’s interns? Here are some of the names and faces that are participating in the Helpers program.

seekersguidance helpersLaila Abdel Ghany lives in Cairo, Egypt. She studied Comparative Literature, with minors in Anthropology and Education, and is interested in how these fields can be brought together and perfected through the Islamic tradition.

Layla wrote The Historical Significance of the Dala’il al-Khayrat.




seekersguidance helpersSaad Razi Shaikh is a journalist based in Mumbai. He writes on popular culture and community initiatives. He can be reached on Twitter @writweeter.

Saad Razi wrote The Internet, Learning Arabic and Islam – Interview with Ustadh Abdullah Misra.




seekersguidance helpersCori Mancuso is a graduate in Religious Studies at Lycoming College. While seeking sacred knowledge, she develops content for SeekersGuidance and Sabeel Community. 

Cori wrote Interview: Defining Knowledge – Shaykh Yahya Rhodus.




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Naved Islam is a student in 12th grade. He tries to write beneficial things and also makes apps. You can connect with him through his website.

Naved is working on upcoming content.




seekersguidance helpersOsama Hassan is an Australian of Pakistani descent who holds a Bachelor’s degree in Finance from Curtin University. He is currently pursuing studies in Arabic and the Islamic sciences in Amman.

Osama wrote Is Religion Relevant in the 21st Century? Interview with Shaykh Hamza Karamali.




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Tuscany Bernier is a published author from Indiana where she lives with her husband and two cats. You can find her at her website.

Tuscany is working on upcoming content.





Muhammad Kabir Hussaini is a Nigerian national who studied English, Arabic and French Translation in the Republic of the Sudan. He currently works as a primary school teacher in Khartoum, Sudan.

Muhammad Kabir is working on upcoming content.




seekersguidance helpersSharifah Bebe Hasan is from Singapore, and has obtained her Alimiyyah certificate in Hadith in addition to graduating in Shariah from University of Indonesia. Currently, she’s enhancing her research and writing skills through SeekersGuidance.

Sharifah is working on upcoming content.




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Ahmad Honest Qashidi is an undergraduate student at Al-Azhar University, Cairo, focusing in the faculty of Islamic Law. He aims to be of service for the Southern California communities and beyond.

Ahmad Honest is working on upcoming content. 






Interview with Shaykh Mohammad Ba-Dhib, Scholar-in-Residence

Syeda Husain from SeekersHub Toronto interviews our newest scholar-in-residence, Shaykh Mohammad Abu Bakr Ba-Dhib.

Shaykh Mohammad Ba-Dhib, sits in his brightly lit office and waits for me to begin the interview. We have another brother present, a student named Abdullah waiting to assist us if a translation is required. Shaykh smiles at me and I ask if I can record the interview for my own notes and record. He obliges.

I tell him that I will be asking questions about his childhood, and chosen path of Islamic studies. He laughs a little nervously.

I know that the newest resident-scholar of SeekersHub was born in Shibam, Hadramawt, Yemen. He is not much older than me but has published over 70 books in theology, Islamic Fiqh, Islamic history, Arabic literature, Arabic poetry. His accomplishments might intimidate me if it wasn’t for his warm smile and approachable demeanour.

I begin by asking Shaykh Mohammad about his favourite subject in all the topics he has studied, researched and written of. He tells me enjoys the history of Hadith, and particularly the biography of the Fuqaha and Muhaddit’hain. Shaykh Mohammad tells me that he was always inclined towards learning in the Islamic tradition. He was but eight years old and had memorized the last quarter of the Holy Qu’ran. He loved going to madrassa after school for the Maghrib prayer, and would stay to study of his own volition. When many children are commanded by their parent to sit, listen, learn and recite, Shaykh Muhammad was eager to be immersed in this Prophetic tradition.

Shaykh Mohammad was an excellent student and so much that even in his youth, his peers named him “Shaykh Badiyya” after their teacher because of his mature disposition and affinity for learning in the Islamic Sciences.

His Studies

As the youngest of five boys (his eldest brother is 22 years older) I wonder whether his parents encouraged him to pursue his passion for Islamic studying. He laughs heartily.

I rephrase my question and wonder whether his father wanted him to be an engineer or a doctor, because he was always such a high achieving student in all subjects.

“A pharmacist or a doctor,” he says with a shining smile. “[Initially] My father was against me.”

He moved to Saudi Arabia when he was 12 years old and studied with one of the greatest Shaykhs of that time, Shaykh Umer Jadahi Sadaat. Shaykh Muhammad wanted to go to study at Al-Ahqaf University in Tarim, Yemen, which only began running programs and classes in 1996. Naturally, his father had some reservations about the institution as it had only recently been established.

The teachers at the university recited Fatiha and not long after, his father had an operation. During his recovery, he went to the the teachers and they helped encourage him to give his son his blessing.

Shaykh Muhammad is the proud father of three children, two teenage sons ( one of whom is already Hafiz) and a very young daughter. He tells me that he would support his children’s decision to enrol in traditional Islamic studies. In fact, he would even prefer if one of them chose that path. I notice that he does not discriminate between genders of his children. I ask him about the perceived lack women in Islamic Scholarship, and if there women on the path of seeking knowledge. Shaykh Muhammad sits up and for a moment looks serious. I understand this is to emphasize the importance of what he will clarify. “I have taken Ijaazat from Syeddat (female teachers)!”

Female Scholarship

Shaykh Mohammad tells me about one of his own teachers and mentors, Dr. Attiya Arab, who granted him Ijaaza in Hadith. She taught at the University of Karachi and comes from a long line of scholars who have contributed immensely to Islamic Scholarship. She has Ijaaza in teaching the Isnad from Shaykh Maymani. Her father is Maulana Khalyl Al-Yamani.

This is also of significance. At Aligarh Islamic University in India, there is a council of Arabic and Islamic studies which publishes a special edition of a journal. One issue includes the entire treatise that Dr. Attiya Arab wrote. The point of sharing this is to illustrate that great scholars are certainly taught by women.

Shaykh Mohammad’s craving for knowledge not only took him to Tarim, but to Beirut, Lebanon. He completed his PhD in Theology from Aligarh University in India. Over a four-year period, he completed his doctorate in the History of Hadhrami Scholars in India, while travelling back to the Middle East.

He grins and tells me that butter chicken was his favourite dish. I smile knowingly, because who among the most pious people and greatest minds, does not love juicy chicken pieces smothered in a creamy savory sauce?

“After that?” I ask.

“Parathas, with ghee” he replies very quickly. We digress from the usual interview questions and Shaykh Muhammad tells me that in Yemen, there is a similar type of bread called “barowtha”. I am beginning to get hungry.

I ask Shaykh Mohammad about his experiences in India. He tells me that after Makkah, Madinah and Yemen, India is a spiritual place full of Islamic tradition, and I can see that it is very close to his heart.

He describes a very precious memory to me, as I listen keenly. Shaykh Mohammad is the type of teacher who makes you want to catch every word he says.

“When I was in India, the laundry man … how do you say…”

“Dhobi?” I offer.

“Yes,” he grins “Dhobi! The dhobi used to iron my clothes – 2 Rupees per piece, and he used coal in the iron…:”

“He used coal?” I asked incredulously.

I look at Brother Abdullah to make sure that the words are correct in English. He nods and they exchange a few sentences in Arabic. Brother Abdullah smiles and confirms. “Yes, they use coal.”

Shaykh Muhammad asks Brother Abdullah to Google it. He does. I am fascinated by this information, and also feeling a slight bit sheepish because I had no idea they put coal in irons.

But this incredibly knowledgeable Shaykh, remembers the 80-something year old ‘Dhobi’ who pressed his clothes over four years. He remembers him well. I wonder if the coal ever stained his clothes. But Shaykh Mohammad is pristine and I immediately feel a pang of guilt for assuming that the Dhobi wouldn’t be anything but phenomenal in his professional work.

I appreciated how Shaykh Ba-Dhib recollected this memory, something small that is ample yet meaningful, a poignant reminder of his personality and character.

Often, we see our teachers and our Shuyukh as people who are larger than life. They espouse knowledge, wisdom and are often our guides to betterment. But there are always the moments when their personalities shine through and we get an opportunity to see them as part of the Umma, as former students who struggled, as those striving to follow in the path of the Prophetic tradition, as people who remember their journeys with gratitude and reflection.

Earning a PhD in Theological studies is not a simple task. Taking in the surroundings in a foreign country with so much positivity is no small feat. This is one of the small lessons I have picked up from our hour-long conversation.

Advice to Students

Shaykh Mohammad guides students to have a clear focus. He is very ready to offer a lot of practical advice.

“Students should have a plan,” he reiterates. “So they do not get distracted.” Shaykh Mohammad believes that being goal-oriented is important in many things, particularly in higher studies.

He has not only shown this from a very young age, but continues to exemplify this today. He is of the highest calibre of teachers and brings a sound understanding and personality to SeekersHub.

I make a mental note to bring butter chicken to the next community event.


The Write Legacy: Interview with Dr Saadia Mian and Sr Ambareen Syed

Fatimah Gomez interviews two female Muslim authors, who were guest speakers at the recent Muslim Women’s Literary Conference. interview

Dr. Saadia Mian

Fatimah: Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Saadia Mian, author of Crowning Venture, and a deeply inspiring person who also completed the memorisation of the Qur’an.

Dr. Saadia, you gave a beautiful uplifting talk about the journey of your book The Crowning Venture, and how this book has changed your life. I’d like to start off from the beginning— where did your writing journey essentially begin?

Dr. Saadia: Well to start with, I was writing on and off for the past five years, usually being inspired by the journeys that my medical career took me upon. I was always a reader, and this has enabled me to write even more.

Fatimah: From what you mentioned during your talk, writing The Crowning Venture was something very personal and involved you telling your reader many personal experiences that you went through along your journey in memorising the Qur’an. Can you tell us how you were so motivated write about these experiences, no matter how personal they were?

Dr. Saadia: Well you see, I realised that if I didn’t let people know and understand the beauty of the journey that comes with learning the Qur’an, nobody would ever know how journey is. I always ask myself, “Is this a message that will help others?” And with this mindset, we as writers have to be willing to write freely from our hearts and not be afraid of what others think of our writing or how they will respond.

Fatimah: And who would you say motivated you the most along your writing journey?

Dr. Saadia: Well, I had amazing editors that really pushed me to write what I wanted to convey to my readers without worrying about anything. They always supported me and encouraged me to write now and they would be able to edit everything later accordingly.

Fatimah: Many of us struggle with articulating the seriousness of our writing. How would you say is a good easy to show others how serious you are with your writing?

Dr. Saadia: I would say just keep on writing, push aside your fears and get your feelings out with your words. Eventually people will come to realise how passionate you are.

Fatimah: And what would be one piece of advice you’d like to leave us with?

Dr. Saadia: The best thing that I can tell you is to find people who are willing to support you and who you can lean on throughout your writing journey. This path of writing isn’t meant to be travelled alone.

Fatimah: Thank you Dr. Saadia, for giving us this amazing opportunity of benefiting from your experience and words.

Dr. Saadia: You’re very welcome.

You can find out more about The Crowning Venture here

Sr. Ambareen Syed

Fatimah: Here we also have with us Sister Ambareen Syed, author of the Henrietta Gee series and mother of six beautiful children.

Tell us, Sister Ambareen, where did you first discover your passion for writing?

Sr. Ambareen: Well, ever since I was young, I was always a big reader. I loved reading sci-fi books and when I started to hit my teen years, I started entering contests with my manuscripts and won them, which encouraged me forward along my writing journey.

Fatimah: And what inspired you to write the Henrietta Gee series?

Sr. Ambareen: It began with storytelling. I used to create stories of this girl named Henrietta and tell them to my kids. They always begged me for more stories and this encouraged me to write them down. Eventually, these stories grew into the Henrietta Gee series.

Fatimah: Amazing. It’s always beautiful seeing inspiration coming from your own children.

Sr. Ambareen. (Laughs.) Yes, definitely.

Fatimah: How would you advise Muslim writers of today to embed the spiritual perspective into their writing?

Sr. Ambareen: Firstly, we must understand that other people will always connect differently to our writing, compared to how we do. But it’s also important that we take advantage of this opportunity of literacy that has been presented to us and use this, striving to uplift our society with our works.

It also comes back to your intention. You have to think of your intention before you write, think about what kind of feelings you want to leave your readers with. What kind of lesson do you want them to think about and take to heart. This makes a difference in our manuscripts because it gives a meaning to our words, creating a message for our readers.

Fatimah: Very important. I know a lot of young writers out there today who are passionate about their work but don’t feel encouraged enough to stay motivated along the journey of literacy. What would you like to tell them to encourage them forward?

Sr. Ambareen: Keep writing. Just keep along at it, don’t even bother to edit your ideas. You want to let the creative process and ideas flow out first, and then later you can hard-core edit everything.

Fatimah: Well thank you so much Sister Ambareen. I’m so glad that you were able to share some of your time with us and hopefully, have motivated and inspired others with your words. Until next time.

Sr. Ambareen: Alhamdulillah, it was my pleasure.

You can find out more about the Henrietta Gee series here

Fatimah Gomez is 15 years old, and the second eldest  of five. She’s currently in high school and has had a passion for writing since age 9. Recently, she completed her first book for Muslim youth, which she intends to publish soon. She enjoys playing and watching soccer, training for taekwondo, jdm cars, discovering the beauty in art and poetry and connecting with Allah’s creation.


VIDEO: Dr Umar Faruq Abdallah in Conversation

Dr Umar Faruq Abdallah
For almost forty minutes, Dr Umar Faruq Abdallah answered questions from Nazir Ahmed Ghani of Subh e Noor, a Pakistani channel. The topics ranged from animal rights to sufis who don’t follow Islamic law, if dhikr serves any purpose and how a man’s religiosity affects his treatment of his wife, the intense pressure of being in the modern world and whether scholars are responsible for the disunity in the Muslim ummah. Lots of food for thought.

More from Dr Umar Faruq Abdallah on SeekersHub

Living the Arts – Sehar Shahzad by Seema Khan


Conducting the interview for this month’s “Spotlight on a Community Member” was both exciting and inspiring.

Sehar Shahzad is an artist who at a young age possesses incredible discipline and focus.  She has dedicated her spare time to the practice of calligraphy, and will soon be able to teach this ancient art to others.

Sehar is a 22-year-old Muslima born and raised in Toronto, Ontario.  Her composure is apparent in her work.  The technique, care, and attention to detail are evident in every one of the pieces I saw on Sehar’s Facebook page.

She explained her connection to her art with a quote from the Quran: “Verily in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find tranquility,” (Ch 13, v28).  At a personal level, Sehar explained, “We turn to Allah and make dua as a means of easing the heart.  In general, people turn to art or poetry or music to get away and for reflection.  I am able to connect this way – it eases the heart and it is doing dhikr.  It is a mechanism for release – an outlet to reach to Allah (SWT) and to find comfort, and further share this remembrance with others.”

Sehar is a fourth year undergraduate, completing a degree in Psychology at the University of Toronto. Over the last four years, she has pursued her love for art.  For the past two years, she has dedicated herself to studying calligraphy. She is the student of Shaykh Yusuf Badaat, Imam of the Islamic Foundation School in Toronto, and Haji Noor Uddin, a world-renown calligrapher. Her courses with Haji Noor are through e-mail correspondence to/from China!

When asked about her future plans, Sehar explained that traditional calligraphy requires years of practice, as it is an art with many rules and technicalities that has been developed and preserved for hundreds of years.  She is therefore striving towards her ijaza (teaching certification) in traditional Arabic calligraphy. She hopes to teach this fine skill to others one day.

Sehar’s passion has given root to her own budding Islamic art business. She has established herself as an accomplished freelance artist in Arabic and Quranic calligraphy by selling her professional work online and at popular events such as the Reviving the Islamic Spirit conference.  Other notable accomplishments include a magazine interview for London Link Magazine (in Ontario),  artwork commissioned by Taric Mosque and the new Muslim prayer room at the University of Toronto’s Emmanuel College, as well as exhibits at the Royal Ontario Museum and the Art Gallery of Ontario.

I asked Sehar to define the essence of her inspiration and she immediately honored those that influenced her the most: “My parents say that if your heart is drawn towards something good, then Allah will make it easy for you.  These are heavy words – they remind me that intentions are key – that all is from God and we are the pen and He is the Hand – and I make sure that I remember this.  Secondly, my teacher, Haji Noor said to have passion, patience, and practice.”

Sehar summed up her artwork as a “unique form of worship through reflection on the words of God.”  The inspiration and advice she received from those closest to her is apparent in her work: passion for the arts, love for family, and devotion to Islam.

Sehar Shahzad’s works can be found at

Original article sourced from

Ingrid Mattson: The bridge builder – London Free Press

Ingrid Mattson: The bridge builder – London Free Press

EDUCATION: Kitchener-raised, she converted to Islam from Catholicism, balancing her new faith with others. That knack has taken her, among other places, to the White House and to a leading U.S. seminary and, now, to Huron University College in London. Jennifer O’Brien reports on the remarkable story of Ingrid Mattson.

When you grow up in a big Catholic family and decide at 23 to convert to Islam, there are a few things to consider.

How do you embrace your new faith without alienating those you love?

How strictly do you follow the rules?

Can you still go to Oktoberfest?

“Was it a lifestyle change?” asks Kitchener-native Ingrid Mattson with a laugh, recalling the religious awakening that put her on a path to becoming the first chair of Islamic studies at Huron University College in London.

“At the beginning I’d wonder, ‘If I don’t drink, can I still go to bars? If I don’t go to bars, where can I see my brothers socially?’ That was part of my social life with family and friends.”

Mattson, 48, will soon occupy a hot seat at Huron, where a flap blew up this summer when the Anglican-affiliated school at the University of Western Ontario decided to accept money raised by Muslim groups — one local, one national — to help fund a new chair in Islamic studies.

Mattson will be the program’s first chair.

A small, but vocal group of critics had argued two Muslim groups ­— the Muslim Association of Canada and the International Institute for Islamic Thought — have ties to controversial Muslim groups abroad, and the $2 million in funding could influence how Huron designed the courses and chose the chair.

Huron officials and Muslim leaders insisted neither was true — and that the accusations were groundless.

Meanwhile, during the past 20 years, Mattson — whose appointment was announced last month — has mastered a balance between her new faith and her old life. That balance works beautifully within her family and also across North America, where she’s helped build bridges between religious organizations — while making a name for herself as one of the continent’s most respected Muslim leaders.

With a resume that includes a term as president of the Islamic Society of North America, a spot on the White House’s faith-based and neighbourhood partnerships task force, and a place at U.S. President Barack Obama’s inaugural prayer service where she represented American Muslims, Mattson’s appointment is a thrill for the college.

“We are just so excited about her. She’s the total package,” said Huron principal Stephen McClatchie. “Her record of engagement in civil society and bringing together people of different faiths was so compelling.”

Mattson starts work in London next July, after leaving her teaching post at Hartford Seminary in Connecticut.

“How great is it to be bringing a Canadian of her calibre back into this country,” McClatchie said.

Receptive to questions and down-to-earth, Mattson is easily found on YouTube, where some of her interviews and presentations are posted.

Still, since Huron announced her appointment, critics have resurfaced. One national columnist suggested she supports Hamas and Wahhabism, the state creed in Saudi Arabia. The columnist didn’t quote anyone or offer evidence.

“I don’t take it personally. When you grow up with four brothers, you get a thick skin,” Mattson said from Connecticut, where she’s director of the Macdonald Center for the Study of Islam and Christian-Muslim Relations at Hartford Seminary.

“I know there are people in the world who are motivated to create misunderstanding,” she said, “but I figure if anyone makes an accusation they should prove it.”

Asked to respond to comments that the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and to terrorism, she rhymed off an exhaustive list of interfaith initiatives she’s spearheaded.

“I’m really proud of what we did at ISNA. It has never been a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and I never have been,” she said. “Anyone who makes the claim that we are, or I am, anti-Semitic, is just ridiculous.”

Mattson — who’s heading to Jordan next month with her mother for a Christian/Muslim conference — is known for bridge-building between Muslim and Jewish leaders, and for her mission to educate Canadian and American Muslims on becoming more active in society.

The Islamic studies program at Huron is a response to growing interest in courses about Islam from both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars.

“I’ve seen hundreds and hundreds of academic CVs, but when I saw (Mattson’s), there was no question,” said McClatchie, adding Mattson’s appointment was the same as “any other academic appointment” upon the recommendation of a committee.

The committee was made up of Huron faculty and members of the Muslim community, who had “voice but no vote,” McClatchie said.

On its website, the college has posted a list of endorsements for the Kitchener native by religious leaders.

“Prof. Mattson is one of North America’s premier Muslim scholars of the Holy (Koran). She is also one of the great leaders of Islam on this continent,” writes Rabbi Burton Visotzky, of the Jewish Theological Seminary in one endorsement.

“She will bring her wisdom to Ontario to promote good and productive relations among Jews and Muslims throughout Canada.”

Yet, in another post to the Huron site, McClatchie felt compelled to respond to accusations that have recently surfaced in the media.

“We thought it was important to set the public record straight,” he said. “The overwhelming majority of the response is quite positive and we are just so excited about her.”

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Religion: “I wasn’t interested in religion at all. I didn’t know anything about Islam or Muslims. . . as I was reading (the Koran), I started to experience this awareness in me that kept rising to the surface, despite me not wanting particularly to acknowledge it.”

Childhood: An animal and nature lover born in 1963, Mattson grew up one of seven children in a close-knit family. They spent summers at a cottage in the Thousand Islands and later worked planting trees in Northern Ontario and B.C. “I had a great childhood,” she says.

Conversion: At 15, before devoting herself Islam, Mattson declared herself an atheist. At 22, she picked up a Koran, after befriending some Senegalese Muslim students in Paris. Within a year, she’d converted to Islam, with the support of her family.

Family: Married to an Egyptian-Canadian engineer, with two grown children, a cat and a 90-pound rescue dog named Ziggy, Mattson has taught at Hartford Seminary since 1998. “I love it here and the opportunities I’ve had, but I miss Canada,” she said. “It’s home.”


  • Director of the Macdonald Center for the Study of Islam and Christian-Muslim Relations at Hartford Seminary in Connecticut.
  • In 2006, elected first woman president of the Islamic Society of North America.
  • Through the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), was an adviser to the Bush and Obama administrations and represented U.S. Muslims at Obama’s inauguration.
  • Served on the White House task force for faith-based and neighbourhood partnerships.
  • Helped develop the Children of Abraham, a program organized by ISNA and the Union for Reform Judaism to promote understanding between Muslim and Jewish communities.
  • Helped organize the first “mosque-synagogue twinning,” a kind of rabbi-imam exchange.
  • Holds a PhD in Islamic studies from the University of Chicago.


Advice for Students of Knowledge Overseas: A Meeting with Dr. Ingrid Mattson – By Ustadh Abdullah Misra

Interview with a Productive Muslim: Shaykh Faraz Rabbani

Interview with a Productive Muslim: Shaykh Faraz Rabbani is pleased to present to you an interview with a very ultra-Productive Muslim – Shaykh Faraz Rabbani.

Shaykh Faraz Rabbani is a researcher and teacher of the Islamic sciences, specializing in Islamic Law. He is the Educational Director of SeekersGuidance, and a partner and legal advisor with StraightWay Ethical Advisory.  He has two published books: Sufism & Good Character and Absolute Essentials of Islam: Faith, Prayer, and the Path of Salvation According to the Hanafi School (White Thread Press, 2004.)


A ProductiveMuslim is someone who is successfully seeking the pleasure of Allah swt in their religion and worldly life – regardless of what they are doing. They say, “Your place is where Allah places you”. Where ever you are, seeking the pleasure of Allah SWT – in the way He has commanded, given your circumstances.

A truly ProductiveMuslim is someone, who understands the Prophetic example and who strives to live by it -both in their relationship with Allah and their relationship with Allah’s creation – someone who appreciates the Prophet’s example is one of beauty, excellence and sincere concern for good in one’s relationship to God and in relation to God’s creations.

A ProductiveMuslim is one, who has a sense of urgency and who is avid for the good and who seeks a consistent sustainable meaningful means of seeking the good for themselves and for those that they are responsible for – spouse, parents, children, and the society at large.

It is also important to make one’s work spiritual- make one’s “Islamic” work, spiritual. One does not do it merely for the work itself, but to keep in mind one is doing it for the sake of Allah and to begin in the name of Allah, striving to be in the remembrance of Allah. One must Seek Allah swt and connection to the Messenger of Allah (saws) by keeping in mind his radiant example (saws). Also, one can’t take on too much. One does what one can and stops before taking on what one can’t -to the best of ones’ ability.